Chrono's Genetics Training

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    Yeah. Those who aren't genetic savy often call cats by mistaken color names. Ex; Orange [Red tabby] Silver [Blue or Silver tabby usually.], Brown [Chocolate and sometimes even cinnamon.] So it's always best to ask for a picture on the questionable ones.

    awesome, albino question answered! in the meantime i found another question i need to ask mwahahaha. okay, since both red and white mask, could you have a red tabby masking white masking browntabby (or something similar)? also, if you have a kit from a litter (black carry cinnamon x red tabby) that is male and thus red tabby, and he has the black carry cinnamon gene from his father - if that kit grows up and mates with a red tabby, will his red tabby male kits carry on the black carry cinnamon gene as well?

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    awesome, albino question answered! in the meantime i found another question i need to ask mwahahaha. okay, since both red and white mask, could you have a red tabby masking white masking browntabby (or something similar)? also, if you have a kit from a litter (black carry cinnamon x red tabby) that is male and thus red tabby, and he has the black carry cinnamon gene from his father - if that kit grows up and mates with a red tabby, will his red tabby male kits carry on the black carry cinnamon gene as well?


    Yes, you can have white masking red tabby masking brown tabby. XD The red tabby can't mask white though, only vice versa, because white is the most dominant, being a "suppression" of colors rather than a color itself.


    And yes, I do believe that a red tabby (masking black carrying cinnamon) would be able to pass on those genes even if he were to mate with another red tabby. You would have to factor in what the other red tabby is carrying too, but otherwise yes. (All his kittens would still be red tabbies, but they would carry the "black carry cinnamon" genes -- just to clarify. But I'm pretty sure that's what you were asking. :3)


    (Sorry I haven't been on much! I still gotta run in a minute. Thanks for helping everyone Shakespeare <3)

    [No problem, I love helping people with what I can :D]


    Buttt, I have a little confusion on this that could use some clarification if you could x3 When you have Cream tabby, do you assume it to mask black, or blue instead?


    Because, In Something Dilute x Cream tabby [or flipped] I know there's the dilute only rule, but, if Cream masks black, it would change that since something undiluted was thrown in. So, I was wondering if you assume blue instead, to keep the Dilute x Dilute= only dilutes rule in tack for that pair?

    Shakespeare wrote:


    Yeah. Those who aren't genetic savy often call cats by mistaken color names. Ex; Orange [Red tabby] Silver [Blue or Silver tabby usually.], Brown [Chocolate and sometimes even cinnamon.] So it's always best to ask for a picture on the questionable ones.


    Right. I TOTALLY regret all the times I used to put like, orange cat with green eyes and light brown tabby with violet eyes..... I'M SO SAWY!

    i remember saying one of my cats was a "ginger tabby" lol. isn't firestar supposed to be a "solid red cat"? i've heard about the erin's failed genetics but geez, haha. i guess you assume he's a cameo.


    thanks, chronos!

    Shakespeare wrote:


    [No problem, I love helping people with what I can :D]


    Buttt, I have a little confusion on this that could use some clarification if you could x3 When you have Cream tabby, do you assume it to mask black, or blue instead?


    Because, In Something Dilute x Cream tabby [or flipped] I know there's the dilute only rule, but, if Cream masks black, it would change that since something undiluted was thrown in. So, I was wondering if you assume blue instead, to keep the Dilute x Dilute= only dilutes rule in tack for that pair?


    You can assume it masks either one, really, since it's essentially the same thing. As long as you know that when the mother passes on the black gene to another kit and it's not diluted, it makes black instead of blue, I don't think what you call it makes much of a difference.


    If it helps you remember that the kits can only be diluted, it'd be fine to call it blue, yeah.


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    Warriors wiki describes him as a ginger tom. He is probably is red, because look at the pixel drawing on the Warriors Wiki
    http://warriors.wikia.com/wiki/Firestar


    In regards to what Firestar is, I noticed that in the manga he was never drawn with stripes. The books always have him looking like a solid red cat, too. So like Shakespeare said, he's probably supposed to be a red cameo or something. (Erin Hunter likely didn't think about it, but at least that mess-up is genetically possible... XD)

    She probably didn't think about the genetics when she wrote the book. Because is it possible for a fawn-ish solid cat with white spotting and GREEN EYES to have a white kit with blue eyes? Its possible, but only barely. Her white spotting probably transfurred to him, but what about the blue eyes. We don't know who the father is, so is it really possible for him to have blue eyes and not be deaf?

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    She probably didn't think about the genetics when she wrote the book. Because is it possible for a fawn-ish solid cat with white spotting and GREEN EYES to have a white kit with blue eyes? Its possible, but only barely. Her white spotting probably transfurred to him, but what about the blue eyes. We don't know who the father is, so is it really possible for him to have blue eyes and not be deaf?


    Well, If you had a Fawn cat with white, even if she had green eyes, it would still be genetically possible to get a solid white cat with blue eyes. If the father had any amount of white on him, then they'd both have Ss [or even SS for the father] In their genetic code, meaning it'd be possible to get SS in one of the kits, meaning it could technically become all white masking Fawn, or whatever the father's main color was. Eye color really has nothing to do with the parent's fur color. Eye color is pretty much linked with fur color of the kit itself.


    And, not all white cats with blue eyes are deaf. But, a cat with blue eyes has a 70% chance of being deaf.

    wow. . . Maybe erin wasn't so savvy about genetics and made it a free for all because it was so hard to do the genetics and write a book that probably took her 2 years to write?. . . Tracking

    Right. But she might have some expirience because the one kit (Snowkit?) was deaf and got eaten by an eagle when they were in the first place.

    Question- Is there such a thing as Cinnamon lynx sepias/minks, or Seal Tortie sepias/minks, ect?


    Because on one of the questions on the test for sepias[Cream tabby x Cinnamon sepia] I would think tortie sepias would be possible for the females, but for some reason that doesn't sound like a real thing o.o Is it? [for both sepias and minks? because I already know it's possible for points.]


    Edit; Another question because i'm annoying ;_;
    In Mink x Solid, what would be possible? I would think only Minks & Solids, but would points & sepias be possible too?

    I don't know If I'm allowed to say anything even though I know this 100% so I shall post my answer in here

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    I'm sorry if you already posted about it, but Chrono, did you ever finish looking at my answers to the red ones?

    but...Why would you assume it to carry point or sepia, since neither of those are in the pair? I know it can't carry mink, but, why would you assume it to carry anything, then? :p

    Shakespeare wrote:


    Question- Is there such a thing as Cinnamon lynx sepias/minks, or Seal Tortie sepias/minks, ect?


    Because on one of the questions on the test for sepias[Cream tabby x Cinnamon sepia] I would think tortie sepias would be possible for the females, but for some reason that doesn't sound like a real thing o.o Is it? [for both sepias and minks? because I already know it's possible for points.]


    Edit; Another question because i'm annoying ;_;
    In Mink x Solid, what would be possible? I would think only Minks & Solids, but would points & sepias be possible too?


    I'm really behind on putting all these questions in the first post o_o; I need to find someone on the staff willing to help me update this thread. XD (But never feel bad about asking questions! Questions are good.)


    I'm fairly sure there's such a thing as a Cinnamon Lynx (/ Cinnamon Tabby) Sepia / Mink. Unless stated otherwise, you can get all kinds of weird combinations, including (I believe) stuff like... "Chocolate Calico Smoke Sepia" and such. Of course it never hurts to ask, I remember months ago when I thought "Tortoiseshell Point" sounded weird... so if you're uncertain, feel free to ask. Or look it up on Google images -- sometimes that helps.


    In Mink x Solid, unless the Solid cat carried something, I don't think the kits would be anything but solids. (They would carry either point or sepia, but you wouldn't see it.) But if the solid parent carried point, the kits could be point, same if the solid parent carried sepia... etc.

    Good luck finding someone! x3


    Okay, so it is possible to get like Cinnamon tortie sepias/mink? -Goes to finish sepia part of test- Thank you :3

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    & Alrighty. So, for the test, would I just answer something like that with just solids, or would it be better to assume it carrying one of those?