Genetic Help for a litter of kittens? [Complete!]

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    Hi there! I'm trying to figure out a genetic mix for a litter of six kittens

    One kitten is flint grey - kind of like
    but with green and amber eyes (kind of like green jasper). He has medium coarse fur,

    One is a dark grey kitten with stripes and yellow eyes, but with short fur.

    The other kittens share variations between browns/greys and mottled patterns with the same colors.

    The one thing I'd like to mention is that I want one of the parents to be an oriental? Like, I want them to have the face and the ears. Will any of the kittens come out with these aspects or is it going to default to regular domestic face style?

    Is any of this possible? If not, can you suggest some alternatives to make certain things in it possible?

    1) Which of these cats is closer colored to the first kitten?

    british-blue-cat-6244.jpgstock-photo-british-lilac-cat-95796211.jpg


    2) Is the second kitten dark gray with black stripes, or gray with dark gray stripes?


    3) Can you specify what color/pattern each of the other kittens is? Also, when you say "mottled", do you mean a pattern like this one (not necessarily the same colors), or something else?

    brclassictabby2.jpg


    Regarding the Oriental parent, the kits may or may not inherit Oriental breed traits. It can vary from kit to kit and different kits may inherit different traits (like, one might have the huge ears, one might look almost full Oriental, one might be skinny and long-legged but have a totally standard domestic face shape, one might take after the other parent completely, etc...)

    1) I'd say the second one is closer to the color I'm looking for.


    2) hmm.. probably grey with dark grey stripes? Both sound ideal to be honest, but I don't wanna go too far out of what might be possible..?


    3) I meant more.. uhm, to be honest, I think most of them share very similar colors to the first two kittens but Like this more than your above image? I'm having a hard time explaining, I'm sorry. I didn't know the right term and it says they're called patched tabbies but.. they're kind of like the caramel tabby torties? Like on This chart.


    As for the other colors..

    Kitten 3 has more of a blue grey with dark grey stripes and the caramel colors,

    Kitten 4 would be more cinnamon colored, I think, but with nearly black stripes and red coloring

    Kitten five would probably have little to no stripes at all, and I think he'd probably be more "traditionally" tabby colored than his siblings.

    I think kitten number six would probably have the white on her body, but I'm not sure how much that'd cover. She'd be more like a the lilac caramel on the right side.


    All the kitten colors except for kitten number six is from the left side.

    just to confirm then...


    kit 1


    kit 3


    kit 4


    im confusing on what you mean by 'traditional' tabby colored. you mean they'd be a brown tabby?


    kit 6

    kit 1:
    Yeah pretty much! Not necessarily the breed, but he looks really pretty similar to that!

    kit 3:
    Along the lines of the first colors! That's pretty much exactly what I thought of when I said caramel.

    kit 4:
    The first one! I like the mixture of a darker red and a lighter red - Would dark stripes still be a possibility on her or..?

    kit 5:
    Probably more brown/red? Like uhh.. like a cinnamon tabby tortie?

    Edit:
    This and this are similar to what I'm thinking for number 5.

    kit6:

    Yes! Exactly that! Those colors are awesome!

    Just so we're clear, if any of these ideas appear to be too far out of the range of typical genetics, than I am totally up to changing and rearranging their appearances, or adjusting descriptors so that their colors work with the rest of the litter. I'm just happy to be getting some help on these matters, since I don't know much about feline genetics myself.


    no, for kit 4 if you want that cinnamon color then you can't have the dark stripes - the darkest would be a cinnamon color



    but okay! here are the parent possibilities:
    black factor tom x tortie factor molly

    - this one would create red factor and black factor tom, as well as black factor and tortie factor mollies


    red factor x tortie factor

    - this one would create red factor and black factor toms, as well as red factor and tortie factor mollies


    red factor x black factor

    - this one would create black factor toms, and tortie factor mollies



    requirements:

    - most likely both tabbies. one must be a mackerel tabby

    - most likely one's dilute. the other must not be a dilute

    - one must be or masking chocolate/lilac/taupe tabby or torbie, the other must be or masking black/blue/caramel tabby or torbie (they both carry cinnamon)

    - one must have white

    - one must either show or mask caramel if they're dilute or not, respectively.

    So just to make sure I got this right.


    • Both the parents gotta be tabby, and one of them needs to have it be mackerel.
    • One's a dilute tabby, the other definitely is not.
    • One's gotta be chocolate/lilac/taupe tabby or torbie, and the other needs to probably mask black/blue/caramel tabby/torbie with white?
    • And one of them needs to show the caramel if they're not dilute and mask it if they are?

    Do I have that right?

    EDIT:
    On another note, what is Taupe genetic-wise? I can't find it in the list of combinations on the updated genetics pairings thread.

    mostly!


    first two are right


    that depends on what you want the parents to be. if you want me to write out all the possible combinations it can be to help you understand here ya go:

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    also they'd show the caramel if they're dilute and mask it if they're not :)