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    Here you go!




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    so what all do you remember and if you don't mind my asking, what was your other account? (:




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    I remember the basics, but not much other than that. I have a memory problem, so if I don't keep up on something that memory turns to dust (for example, I took French for 6 years and barely remember how to form a sentence after a year of not taking it).

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    i remember you! <3 didn't you go by cerise for awhile too?




    but okay (: try these and I'll see where to go from there. If you can, include eyes




    Black xx Lilac




    Chocolate xx Brown mackerel tabby




    Fawn spotted tabby xx Blue classic tabby




    Red tabby xx Black




    Caramel xx Taupe tabby




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    [fancypost bgcolor=; borderwidth=0px; bordercolor=; text-align: justify; width: 375px;]Black xx Lilac
    Black, blue, chocolate, lilac
    Kits can have any realistic eye color except blue.


    Chocolate xx Brown mackerel tabby
    Chocolate, lilac, black, blue, chocolate tabby, lilac tabby, brown tabby, blue tabby
    Tabbies will be mackerel.
    Kits can have any realistic eye color except blue.


    Fawn spotted tabby xx Blue classic tabby
    Cinnamon, fawn, black, blue, cinnamon tabby, fawn tabby, brown tabby, blue tabby
    Tabbies can be classic or spotted.


    Red tabby xx Black
    Males: Black, blue
    Females: Tortie, dilute tortie


    Caramel xx Taupe tabby
    Black, blue, caramel, chocolate, lilac, taupe, brown tabby, blue tabby, caramel tabby, chocolate tabby, lilac tabby, taupe tabby


    //All done assuming the "variety reasoning" still exists (adding in dilutes & solids where they aren't supposed to be)

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    I have two ways of starting this out. ill put them both in spoilers for you to look at


    One


    Two

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    Y is the definitive male chromosome, however.
    o is for black factor
    O is for red factor.


    So since the red factor is on the gender allele, they could cover pretty much any color, but here we always assume them to carry one black (or blue).
    OY BB Dd aa (male red tabby)
    OO BB Dd aa (female red tabby)


    Of course, don't forget that they will also carry whatever color their partner is.
    Another really confusing thing that usually trips up most people is that the solid form of the red factor is called a tabby. But they are genetically solid (Red tabby for dense, cream tabby for dilute). It is ONLY if they are a TYPE tabby that you assume the agouti gene active.


    ex: red TICKED tabby, cream CLASSIC tabby


    Otherwise, they are solid.


    red factor and black factor are co-dominant, meaning you will see both colors if they are together. (Oo = tortie)
    Now, males are either red factor or black factor, because their second HAS to be a Y to be male. So you cannot get male torties unless there is a genetic deformity. If you ever encounter male torties when solving litters, you must tell them that their cat can only pass one factor. But, they must carry that factor for the rest of their lives in that body.


    Females, on the other hand, require two o's, so you can get a mix of one red factor and one black factor. So all torties in real life are female (tortie is short for tortoiseshell just in case you didn't know). There is a tabbied version of tortie(s), and that is torbie(s). Torbie is not short for anything to my knowledge.
    I tend to look at torties as a whole different set, because you can have tortie/torbie anything. Just four differences:
    black = tortie
    blue = dilute tortie
    brown tabby = torbie
    blue tabby = dilute torbie
    Everything else is color tortie (or torbie).
    ex: lilac torbie, cinnamon tortie...


    A calico is a tortie w/ white, and a torbico is a torbie w/ white, in case you ever come across those names when solving litters.


    When solving a litter, the father is always on the left (father x mother). This matters now. And you'd need a separated section for the males and females if applicable.


    One last handy little guide thing before I set you up with a bunch of litters:
    BLACK FACTOR FATHER:

    black factor mom


    red factor mom


    tortie* mom


    RED FACTOR FATHER

    black factor mom


    red factor mom


    tortie* mom


    In short, the males are whatever their mother is.
    * = when I say "tortie" I mean torbies if applicable as well.

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    See if you can do these!


    Red tabby xx Blue


    Cream spotted tabby xx Black


    Cream tabby xx Cream tabby


    Chocolate xx Cinnamon tortie


    Fawn torbie (red factor) xx Cinnamon


    Cinnamon torbie (black factor) xx Blue

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    Males: Black, blue
    Females: Tortie, dilute tortie
    Kits can have any realistic eye color except blue.


    Cream spotted tabby xx Black
    Males: Black, blue, brown tabby, blue tabby
    Females: Tortie, dilute tortie, torbie, dilute torbie
    Kits can have any realistic eye color except blue.
    Tabbies will be spotted.


    Cream tabby xx Cream tabby
    Males: Red tabby, cream tabby
    Females: Red tabby, cream tabby
    Kits can have any realistic eye color except blue.


    Chocolate xx Cinnamon tortie
    Males: Chocolate, lilac, cinnamon, fawn, red tabby, cream tabby
    Females: Red tabby, cream tabby, chocolate tortie, lilac tortie, cinnamon tortie, fawn tortie
    Kits can have any realistic eye color except blue.


    Fawn torbie (red factor) xx Cinnamon
    Males: Cinnamon, fawn, cinnamon tabby, fawn tabby
    Females: Cinnamon tortie, fawn tortie, cinnamon torbie, fawn torbie
    Kits can have any realistic eye color except blue.


    Cinnamon torbie (black factor) xx Blue
    Black, blue, cinnamon, fawn, brown tabby, blue tabby, cinnamon tabby, fawn tabby
    Kits can have any realistic eye color except blue.

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    Very good, overall! If you'd like, we can work out the fourth one together (:

    [fancypost bgcolor=; borderwidth=0px; bordercolor=; text-align: justify; width: 375px;]Cream tabby xx Cream tabby
    Cream tabby
    Kits can have any realistic eye color except blue.


    Chocolate xx Cinnamon tortie
    Males: Chocolate, lilac, cinnamon, fawn, red tabby, cream tabby
    Females: Chocolate, lilac, cinnamon, fawn, chocolate tortie, lilac tortie, cinnamon tortie, fawn tortie
    Kits can have any realistic eye color except blue.

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    Dilute torbie (red factor) xx Tortie
    Lilac spotted torbie xx Dilute torbie
    Red tabby xx Fawn ticked torbie
    Red mackerel tabby xx Dilute classic torbie
    Cinnamon tabby xx Dikute tortie

    [fancypost bgcolor=; borderwidth=0px; bordercolor=; text-align: justify; width: 375px;]Dilute torbie (red factor) xx Tortie
    Males: Red tabby, cream tabby, black, blue, brown tabby, blue tabby
    Females: Red tabby, cream tabby, tortie, dilute tortie, torbie, dilute torbie
    Kits can have any realistic eye color except blue.


    Lilac spotted torbie (assumed to be black factor) xx Dilute torbie
    Males: Red tabby, cream tabby, chocolate, lilac, black, blue, chocolate tabby, lilac tabby, brown tabby, blue tabby
    Females: Chocolate, lilac, black, blue, chocolate tabby, lilac tabby, brown tabby, blue tabby, tortie, dilute tortie, chocolate tortie, lilac tortie, torbie, dilute torbie, chocolate torbie, lilac torbie
    Kits can have any realistic eye color except blue.
    Tabbies and torbies will be spotted.

    assumed to be red factor


    Red tabby xx Fawn ticked torbie
    Males: Red tabby, cream tabby, cinnamon, fawn, black, blue, cinnamon tabby, fawn tabby, brown tabby, blue tabby
    Females: Red tabby, cream tabby, tortie, dilute tortie, cinnamon tortie, fawn tortie, torbie, dilute torbie, cinnamon torbie, fawn torbie
    Kits can have any realistic eye color except blue.
    Tabbies and torbies will be ticked.


    Red mackerel tabby xx Dilute classic torbie
    Males: Red tabby, cream tabby, black, blue, brown tabby, blue tabby
    Females: Red tabby, cream tabby, tortie, dilute tortie, torbie, dilute torbie
    Kits can have any realistic eye color except blue.
    Tabbies and torbies will be mackerel.


    Cinnamon tabby xx Dilute tortie
    Males: Red tabby, cream tabby, black, blue, cinnamon, fawn, brown tabby, blue tabby, cinnamon tabby, fawn tabby
    Females: Black, blue, cinnamon, fawn, brown tabby, blue tabby, cinnamon tabby, fawn tabby, tortie, dilute tortie, cinnamon tortie, fawn tortie, torbie, dilute torbie, cinnamon torbie, fawn torbie
    Kits can have any realistic eye color except blue.

    [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;]Very good! My apologies for the late reply, I went into work a bit early today c:


    Would you like more or to go on? I figured we could go over Piebaldism and Dominant white next before reviewing tabby types/tabby modifiers then onto silvering (: