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so what all was frost able to teach you?
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; text-align: justify; font-size: 9pt; font-family: Georgia;]here is it!
so what all was frost able to teach you?
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; line-height: 14px; width: 450px; text-align: justify; font-family: verdana; font-size: 9pt; color:#;]She just got to the definitions, it was on my old account, but I bookmarked the thread so I can go hunt it down! ^^
I haven't fully memorized all of them, but cinn taught me some things like the dominant and recessive genes, as well as a few of the color basics.
Oh, and were you machi before? Sorry if you weren't, but you just sorta remind me of her. C:
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; text-align: justify; font-size: 9pt; font-family: Georgia;]yes I'm Machi c: and cinn? Is the same cinn I'm training because that isn't allowed. ^^
And that would be great if I could see the thread where she was helping you c:
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; line-height: 14px; width: 450px; text-align: justify; font-family: verdana; font-size: 9pt; color:#;]Oh, no she wasn't training me, she was just telling me a few things.
Actually, we know each other in real life. She told me you trained her and that you were a good trainer, so I brought up PMing you to her and she said sure, but she said she couldn't train me since she was an apprentice c:
Ah, nice to see you again! I think you've helped me with badges before.
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; text-align: justify; font-size: 9pt; font-family: Georgia;]Oh, well if yall two know each other irl, that's cool xD I just have an issue with a member (who is still active on here) stealing my genetics lessons and passing them off as her own. Is distrust people alot lel
But aw, that's sweet c: Oh yeah, when I was staff! Did you go by another name or something? Sophia doesn't ring a bell with me ^^'
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; line-height: 14px; width: 450px; text-align: justify; font-family: verdana; font-size: 9pt; color:#;]Aww, I'm sorry that happened to you. :c Yeah, we're good friends IRL, and she told me that you were a good genetics teacher so I was like 'oh rad'.
I had a couple of screennames but I don't really remember them. :C
Anyway, I can go hunt down the definitions that I learned. I'll post 'em here in a sec!
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allele alternate forms or varieties of a gene?
carrier an individual who is heterozygous for a trait that only shows up in the phenotype of those who are homozygous recessive
chromosome thread-like, gene-carrying bodies in the nucleus of a cell
dominant an allele that masks the presence of a recessive allele in the phenotype?
DNA a large organic molecule that stores the genetic code for the synthesis of proteins. DNA is composed of sugars, phosphates and bases arranged in a double helix shaped molecular structure
gene units of inheritance usually occurring at specific locations, or loci, on a chromosome. Physically, a gene is a sequence of DNA bases that specify the order of amino acids in an entire protein or, in some cases, a portion of a protein. a gene may be made up of hundreds of thousands of DNA bases genes are responsible for the hereditary traits in plants and animals
genotype the genetic makeup of an individual
genome the full genetic complement of an individual (or of a species)
heterozygous a genotype consisting of two different alleles of a gene for a particular trait
homozygous having the same allele at the same locus on both members of a pair of homologous chromosomes
hybridoffspring that are the result of mating between two genetically different kinds of parents--the opposite of purebred - ex. liger
mutation an alteration of genetic material such that a new variation is produced
phenotype the observable or detectable characteristics of an individual organism--the detectable expression of a genotype
probability the likelihood that a specific event will occur probability is usually expressed as the ratio of the number of actual occurrences to the number of possible occurrences
punnett square a simple graphical method of showing all of the potential combinations of offspring genotypes that can occur and their probability given the parent genotypes
purebred offspring that are the result of mating between genetically similar kinds of parents--the opposite of hybrid
recessive an allele that is masked in the phenotype by the presence of a dominant allele
The first thing we covered was research, but I need help with pretty much everything. xD
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; text-align: justify; font-size: 9pt; font-family: Georgia;]That's pretty much all of them ^^ But I try not to use certain definitions to to much because all of my student gets confused on it x3
So would you like to go from the beginning? Things have changed a bit since Frostoul even put the geneticist badge into the system, so we know things that she hasn't taught or anything
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; line-height: 14px; width: 450px; text-align: justify; font-family: verdana; font-size: 9pt; color:#;]If you could teach me from the beginning that'd be great. C:
Thank you again!
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; text-align: justify; font-size: 9pt; font-family: Georgia;]of course! so what I've given you below is NOT your first lesson. the first lesson will begin with black factor and dilution. what I've given you below is a brief overview of the black factor, dilution and the red factor. All we'll be doing with it, is starting you off early on guessing cats from genetic codes:
(ex: bb1, dd, Aa, Ii, Oo > Silver lilac torbie)
I find that when I do this early, it's easier for the babies to catch on ^^
Okay! first of all, we'll start with the vocab that'll be used throughout training.
Homozygous - when a cat has two copies of the same gene (e.g two black genes)
Heterozygous - when a cat has two genes, each different. (e.g one chocolate and one black)
Phenotype - the most basic way to describe something (e.g a cat, a dog)
Genotype - the word used to reperesent a gene.
Eumenalin - the word used to show the black gene.
Pheomenalin - the word used to show the red gene.
Before we start on the black gene, in my head I represent the black and red gene as a flower, the middle being the basic group (the black gene, the red gene) and the petals being sub catagories. (e.g black, chocolate, cinnamon)
now, as mentioned above the eumenalin gene has 3 strands. black, cinnamon and chocolate.
BB = Black
bb = chocolate
bb1 = cinnamon
As you also may know, all cats on wcrpg carry dilute. The dilute for black is blue, the dilute for chocolate is lilac and the dilute for cinnamon is fawn.
DD = non dilute
Dd = non dilute cat carrying the dilute gene (but all cats carry this anyways)
dd = dilute
Finally, the male and female cromosones. The male have only one O gene and the other is Y, where as the mother have both O. Kittens can only have one cromozone from each parent (including the one that makes their gender) so the male get their genes from the mother and the females get their genes from the male. but in some cases if the male is red and the female is black, then the female can be tortie, taking each 1 cromosone from each parents and 'blending' it together to make a tortie.
oY = black factor male
OY = red factor male
oo = black factor female
OO = red factor female
Oo = tortie female
Questions so far? Yes? Nah? Maybe xP
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; line-height: 14px; width: 450px; text-align: justify; font-family: verdana; font-size: 9pt; color:#;]Ah, so cool xD
But a quick question, are the pheomenalin strands: ginger, white, and I can't really guess the third one xD But are calicos the same as torties? The two cromosones blend?
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; text-align: justify; font-size: 9pt; font-family: Georgia;]Pheomenalin does not have multiple strands. It simply consists of red and it's dilute, cream. White is on an entirely different locus.
A tortie is a cat that has the red and black gene showing in its pelt.
A calico, is a tortie that has white spotting. It isn't chromosomes blending, it's the affects of different genes in its genetic code
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; line-height: 14px; width: 450px; text-align: justify; font-family: verdana; font-size: 9pt; color:#;]Okay, thank you!
So since black is dominant to all of the other strands, if a black and chocolate feline had offspring, the offspring would be black?
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; text-align: justify; font-size: 9pt; font-family: Georgia;]Almost.
You see, on this site, we assume all dominant parents to carry there recessive partners gene. If we do this, it allows for more variety, even if this isn't applicable irl. We do it so we don't have simple, boring answers.
For instance, if black was paired with chocolate, you would assume to be BB and bb, yeah?
WRONG! *flicks your nose*
We need to assume that that black parent is carrying one copy of that chocolate cats genes. So instead of them being BB and bb, they would Bb and bb.
Does that make sense?
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; line-height: 14px; width: 450px; text-align: justify; font-family: verdana; font-size: 9pt; color:#;]Mhm! So the offspring would be.. either black or chocolate?
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; text-align: justify; font-size: 9pt; font-family: Georgia;]yepp ^^
Black xx Chocolate
- black, chocolate
Try these
Cinnamon xx Cinnamon
Chocolate xx Cinnamon
Black (carrying cinnamon) xx Chocolate (carrying cinnamon)
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; line-height: 14px; width: 450px; text-align: justify; font-family: verdana; font-size: 9pt; color:#;]The first one is cinnamon
The second is chocolate or cinnamon
And the third is black, cinnamon, or chocolate?
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; text-align: justify; font-size: 9pt; font-family: Georgia;]Very good, but remember to list it all together into one answer.
Try adding dilutes
Blue xx Black
Chocolate xx Lilac
Fawn xx Cinnamon
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; line-height: 14px; width: 450px; text-align: justify; font-family: verdana; font-size: 9pt; color:#;]Black for the first one since that's a dominant allele.
Chocolate or Lilac for the second one?
Cinnamon or fawn for the third one?
[fancypost borderwidth=0px; text-align: justify; font-size: 9pt; font-family: Georgia;]The last two are right. The first one is wrong. All dense (non diluted) cats are assumed to carry dilution. So you should have blue because it is the dilute of Black.
And again, keep everything together.
Ex:
Black xx Lilac
- black, blue, chocolate, lilac