feline genetics training w/ machi ^^ [private]

This is an archived version of FeralFront. While you can surf through all the content that was ever created on FeralFront, no new content can be created.
If you'd like some free FeralFront memorabilia to look back on fondly, see this thread from Dynamo (if this message is still here, we still have memorabilia): https://feralfront.com/thread/2669184-free-feralfront-memorabilia/.
  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;]I... Mighteth (?) confuse myself x3


    Dost thou know anything at all? :3


  • [justify]Nopeth, not of old english xD


    but if you're referring to genetics i know how to punnet square and stuff ^^


    and um ... i could use some help on certain other stuff i guess?? like i don't understand like ... idk


    like i guess i don't get how to exactly look at a picture of a cat and know it's exact genotype ... i guess? im horribly unsure xD[/justify]

  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;]would you mind making thus thread private and invite only please? And hidden x3 we had an incident yesterday and ok c:


    You can't really tell a cats genotype by there picture because that isn't physical stuff. You can however, decipher what it is by the colours and patterns on the cat, you'll learn though!


  • [justify]dino-done :^3


    and oh uh oops


    well uh


    i also don't know certain stuff like mutations in the genetics, too ... i don't know a lot of stuff xD


    or what a '1' means or something


    also thanks for teaching me again ^^[/justify]

  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;]of course c: and don't worry, mutations and 'i', you'll learn it all as we go along, though mutations is towards the ends nwn So I bet it's safe to say that we can start from the beginning c:

  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;] alrighty, so this is to introduce the black factor, Dilution and the beginning of the red factor
    Okay! first of all, we'll start with the vocab that'll be used throughout training.


    Homozygous - when a cat has two copies of the same gene (e.g two black genes)
    Heterozygous - when a cat has two genes, each different. (e.g one chocolate and one black)
    Phenotype - the most basic way to describe something (e.g a cat, a dog)
    Genotype - the word used to reperesent a gene.
    Eumenalin - the word used to show the black gene.
    Pheomenalin - the word used to show the red gene.


    Before we start on the black gene, in my head I represent the black and red gene as a flower, the middle being the basic group (the black gene, the red gene) and the petals being sub catagories. (e.g black, chocolate, cinnamon)
    now, as mentioned above the eumenalin gene has 3 strands. black, cinnamon and chocolate.


    BB = Black
    bb = chocolate
    bb1 = cinnamon


    As you also may know, all cats on wcrpg carry dilute. The dilute for black is blue, the dilute for chocolate is lilac and the dilute for cinnamon is fawn.


    DD = non dilute
    Dd = non dilute cat carrying the dilute gene (but all cats carry this anyways)
    dd = dilute


    Finally, the male and female chromosomes. The male have only one O gene and the other is Y, where as the mother have both O. Kittens can only have one cromozone from each parent (including the one that makes their gender) so the male get their genes from the mother and the females get their genes from the male. but in some cases if the male is red and the female is black, then the female can be tortie, taking each 1 cromosone from each parents and 'blending' it together to make a tortie.


    oY = black factor male
    OY = red factor male
    oo = black factor female
    OO = red factor female
    Oo = tortie female


    You understand, right? :) If so, we'll start with guessing the cat from the codes.

  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;]Very good!


    Now, there's this thing called red masking. I won't get all up into it until the red factor, but for now, say we have something like this;


    Bb, Dd, aa, OY


    It would be a red tabby male masking black


    This only applies to males. I know it won't make much sense right now, but it will soon c:

  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;]oops, forgot that uwu


    A is the definitive tabby gene.


    AA- means the cat is a tabby
    Aa- the cat is a tabby. Always assume a tabby is thus because it carries the recessive gene which would allow for variety
    aa- the cat ain't a tabby


    I know you've got the ticked, mackerel, spotted and classic, as well as the marbled, braided, rosetted, rosettined tabby patterns. But in an effort to not have to write a stupidly long genotype, it's easier just to use Aa or aa.

  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;]Well, before I post the first lesson for the blacl factor, let's try to guess what the cat is from the code, the genetic code.


    Say I give you this: bb1, dd, Aa, Oo


    What can you tell me about it?


  • [justify]bb1 = cinnamon
    dd = not dense but carries the dense gene
    Aa = tabby
    Oo = black


    / ^from first glance without peeking above


    bb1 = cinnamon
    dd = dilute
    Aa = tabby
    Oo = tortie female


    / ^after peeking above


    ... what ?? o.o so would it be like ... a dilute female tortie with cinnamon and tabby stripes on it?[/justify]

  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;]almost c: let's do it together!


    bb1, dd, Aa, Oo


    bb1- This is in fact not a cinnamon cat c: remember that each set is a pair, so there are two genes for each chromosome. Here, you've got b and b1. The first gene is chocolate and second is cinnamon. Cinnamon is second because it is being carried carried but a dominant gene. Chocolate is carrying cinnamon, so the cinnamon isn't showing, but it's there. This I is a chocolate based cat


    dd- This means a cat is diluted. So along with being a chocolate based cat, they change to lilac, because lilac is the dilute of chocolate


    Aa- this cat will be tabbied, keep that in mind


    Oo- Now this is a bit more complicated. This is a tortie female because 1) there is no Y present. If there was, then this would be a male cat. 2) There are two o genes, though different. The first is O, which means this cat has the active red gene, but they've also got o which is the black gene. Blacl and red are, in a sense to not confuse you this early, are co-dominant. They're both going to show when in a female cats genetic code. When a cat has Oo or oO, she is a tortie. But it's the interaction of other genes that change it


    Remember she has the active tabby gene? When torties get the tabby gene, they become torbies (tortie + tabby). Let's put all of this together with what we did


    bb1- chocolate cat
    dd- will be diluted
    Aa- will be tabbied
    Oo- tortie female


    That males her a: lilac torbie

  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;]just takes practice x3 try these, and if you need to work it out, go for it!


    b1b1, Dd, aa, OY


    bb1, dd, Aa, OO


    BB, Dd, Aa, oY


    Bb, dd, aa, Oo


  • [justify]1.) red non-tabby male masking cinnamon
    2.) fawn tabby female
    3.) black tabby male (i'm guessing on this one that the stripes won't show well or something ??)
    4.) blue tortie female
    [/justify]