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  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;]here we are sand (hope it okay that I call you that)! c: Do you know anything at all?

  • Hi yes you can call me that! But i was taught some basic genetics in a biology class but it was only basic 4 square kinda thing

  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;]ah, a punnet square. It's good to know you already know that. It's going to help you a lot. And I'm assuming you know how to set one up and fill it out?


    Other than that, you're cool with going from the beginning, yes? (:

  • Yes I am okay with filling them out and setting it up! And yes starting from the beginning would be perfect

  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;] Okay! first of all, we'll start with the vocab that'll be used throughout training.


    Homozygous - when a cat has two copies of the same gene (e.g two black genes)
    Heterozygous - when a cat has two genes, each different. (e.g one chocolate and one black)
    Phenotype - the most basic way to describe something (e.g a cat, a dog)
    Genotype - the word used to reperesent a gene.
    Eumenalin - the word used to show the black gene.
    Pheomenalin - the word used to show the red gene.


    Before we start on the black gene, in my head I represent the black and red gene as a flower, the middle being the basic group (the black gene, the red gene) and the petals being sub catagories. (e.g black, chocolate, cinnamon)
    now, as mentioned above the eumenalin gene has 3 strands. black, cinnamon and chocolate.


    BB = Black
    bb = chocolate
    bb1 = cinnamon


    As you also may know, all cats on wcrpg carry dilute. The dilute for black is blue, the dilute for chocolate is lilac and the dilute for cinnamon is fawn.


    DD = non dilute
    Dd = non dilute cat carrying the dilute gene (but all cats carry this anyways)
    dd = dilute


    Finally, the male and female chromosomes. The male have only one O gene and the other is Y, where as the mother have both O. Kittens can only have one cromozone from each parent (including the one that makes their gender) so the male get their genes from the mother and the females get their genes from the male. but in some cases if the male is red and the female is black, then the female can be tortie, taking each 1 cromosone from each parents and 'blending' it together to make a tortie.


    oY = black factor male
    OY = red factor male
    oo = black factor female
    OO = red factor female
    Oo = tortie female


    You understand, right? :) If so, we'll start with guessing the cat from the codes.

  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;]tell me the cats from these codes.


    Here's an example;


    bb1,dd,Oo > lilac tortie


    You try these


    Code
    1. [b]BB, Dd, Oo[/b] >
    2. [b]bb, Dd, OY[/b] >
    3. [b]bb, Dd, oY[/b] >
    4. [b]b1b1, Dd, oo[/b] >
  • BB, Dd, Oo > Black Tortie


    bb, Dd, OY > Red male


    bb, Dd, oY > Chocolate male


    b1b1, Dd, oo > Cinnamon female


    fingers crossed ;D

  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;]Very good!


    On the first, it would simply be a tortie c: you only add in the coloured name if it's cinnamon/fawn or chocolate/lilac!


    I'm surprised you got the second one right xD people usually get it wrong. Remember that the red tabby male masks black unless specified, here, it is masking chocolate. Just a fun fact xD always assume a red tabby masks black unless told otherwise.


    Does that make sense? If so, we can go on guessing some more before we try litters

  • Okay, and is it referred to as only a Red? I didn't know if that was how to say it properly. And sure we can guess some more! :D

  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;]Ah. Red and Cream (reds dilute) are always called Red tabby and Cream tabby. They are treated as solids, always. UNLESS. the tabby type is specified (e.g. Red mackerel tabby, cream marbled tabby)


    So unless I specify a tabby type, call them tabbies but treat them as solids!


    Code
    1. [b]b1b1, dd, Oo[/b] >
    2. [b]bb1, Dd, oY[/b] >
    3. [b]Bb1, dd, oo[/b] >
  • Okay gotcha.


    b1b1, dd, Oo > Fawn Tortie


    bb1, Dd, oY > Cinnamon male


    Bb1, dd, oo > Cinnamon female


    could you quickly expain the difference between bb1 and b1b1

  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;]sure.


    it's all going with the genes.


    Remember that b represents chocolate, which is dominant to cinnamon. bb and bb1 are cinnamon. Genes have two sets of alleles per colour. bb1 has two. It's has the b, making it chocolate and the b1 making it. So that means chocolate carrying cinnamon. If it were this, let's say (bb1,Dd,oY) it would mean it is a chocolate male carrying the cinnamon gene.


    b1b1 is cinnamon. This is the only thing that can ever be cinnamon. It is doubly recessive, so in order for it to even show, it HAS to have 2 copies (b1b1).if it only has one (b1)ut is being carried.


    With this in mind, try those last two again c:

  • Ohhhh okay that makes so much more sense! Thanks


    b1b1, dd, Oo > Fawn Tortie


    bb1, Dd, oY > Chocolate male


    Bb1, dd, oo > Lilac female

  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;]Look at the last one.


    The gene for chocolate is b, not B.

  • [fancypost borderwidth=0px; font-size: 8pt; line-height: 12px; width: 350px; text-align: justify;]/slaps gold star onto forehead for good luck.


    Remember this; if a dominant parent is paired with a recessive parent, assume the dominant parent carries one copy of the recessive parents genes.


    Remember that all dense (undiluted) cats are Dd. And a dilute xx Dilute pairing will result solely in diluted kits ;)


    Code
    1. [b]Chocolate xx Blue[/b]
    2. [b]Lilac xx Fawn[/b]
    3. [b]Blue xx Black[/b]
    4. [b]Cinnamon xx Cinnamon[/b]
  • Chocolate xx Blue black female (Bb, Dd, oo), black female (Bb, Dd, oo), Blue male (Bb1,dd, oY), and blue male (Bb1,dd,oY)


    Lilac xx Fawn Lilac female (bb1,dd,oo), lilac female (bb1,dd,oo), fawn male (b1b1,dd,oY), and fawn male (b1b1,dd,oY)


    Blue xx Black Black female (BB,Dd,oo), blue female (BB,dd,oo), Black male (BB,Dd,oY), and blue male (BB,dd,oY)


    Cinnamon xx Cinnamon Cinnamon female (b1b1,DD,oo), cinnamon female (b1b1,Dd,oo), cinnamon male (b1b1,Dd,oY), and fawn male (b1b1,dd,oY)