WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT { LET'S RAID SHADOWCLAN }

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    Odessa was seated on a great pile of large rocks which sat on one of the many cliffs that lead down to the beach. A full moon hung above her, illuminating the territory with its gentle white glow.
    It was nearly midnight, the time she had instructed her clanmates to come here. Through the passing of whispers and rumors, almost all of HawkClan probably knew about the "secret meeting" which was going to be held there. She made sure not to reveal any major details about the whereabouts of this meeting, and disguised her divulgence of information about it as mere gossip to others in casual conversation. All she revealed was that someone was requesting everyone to come to the cliffs at midnight, and that they needed to tell everyone something. Nobody knew it was truly Odessa who was behind all of this.


    She had her speech for this prepared, rehearing it over and over in her mind and murmuring it under her breath when she was alone. Before coming to the cliffs, she calmed her terrible nerves by a consuming a large dose of thyme. Her anxiety over this situation was heavily soothed by the herb, but a twang of it still bothered her. All her anxieties needed to be pushed aside for now, though. She must to do this.
    So there she sat under the shine of the moon and stars, every topic she planned to cover racing through her mind as she awaited for the arrival of the others.

    [size=1]#hcacticityodessa[/size]


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    The cheopta padded over and he looked up at Odessa. She had strong look in her eyes and he figured she had something to say about something. Sitting down he gave a light smile before he curled his tail around his paws. "You look like you have something important to say."
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    The snow leopard padded over to his son, eyes on the she-cat that was sitting there like something was on her mind. He seated himself next to Cytus, watching Odessa like a hawk, waiting for something to come bursting out of her mouth. "Planning something?" he inquired, tilting his head to the side a bit as he waited for an answer from the other HawkClanner.
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    quirking a single nonexistent brow, leo would approach silently, halting beside cytus and flicking a single ear toward tōshirō and sighing quietly as he glanced toward odessa, tilting his head slightly. what's this about??[/fancypost][fancypost bgcolor= ; border: 0px solid black; font-family: arial; font-size: 11px; letter-spacing: 1px; width: 300px; margin-top: -10px;]
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    prism came up, brooding, but his face was neutral. he came to sit beside leo in a lame track.
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    [fancypost borderwidth=0px; height: auto; width: 455px; text-align: justify;]Iowa came to sit down lightly in a track post, wondering what Odessa had to say while Para ran around her room trying to catch her ferret.

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    //rushed tbh
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    [size=1]jay padded up in a rushed post.
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    #hcactivityjayw

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    [fancypost borderwidth=0px;background-color: #ffffff; width:350px; color: #515151; text-align:justify; font-family:arial; font-size:10px; margin: 10px 5px 5px; 5px;]{ THING I SHOULD HAVE SAID IN THE FIRST POST BUT IT WAS RUSHED AND I FORGOT:
    If any of you don't know, Odessa is doing this to form a group of people who will go and raid ShadowClan without Ichigo's permission. }


    Both fear and relief washed over Odessa as more and more began to make their way onto the cliffs, and their questions of what she was planning just increased her worry. At least people were actually showing up, she supposed...but with every person who arrived, the risk of Ichigo discovering her plan increased drastically.
    Who in the group were the most likely to tell the monarch? Her heart pounded at the walls of her chest as she gazed around at the forming group, trying to decipher who amongst the numbers to be the most weary of.
    Byakuya and Leo might tell him, considering they held positions that were the closest to the leader. Her fellow outriders were just as likely to spill the beans. Actually, everyone here could potentially tell him.
    Oh god, she shouldn't have done this at all. All of these people would tell him. How in the world was this a good idea?!
    No, no. It was too late to turn back now. She would just need to put up good points for her ideas, convince them this was necessary. They wouldn't tell him if they saw that this was the right course of action.
    "Greetings everyone, I thank you all for coming. " It took all the courage in her just to say those eight little words. How would she find any more for the rest of this?!
    "As I'm sure you are all aware of, a very unfortunate series of events have recently been occurring in our dear clan. HawkClan has been attacked on multiple occasions, along with a countless number of corpses dumped on our land." She was surprised she was doing well so far, every word was flowing out just as she rehearsed.
    "As if those acts were not disgusting enough, the deputy of ShadowClan had the nerve to waltz onto our territory and attack our own leader, Ichigo Kurosaki, and blind him!
    Ichigo was already blind to what obviously needed to be done before Masspaw attacked him, and losing his eyesight wouldn't help him see the truth any more clearly. Hopefully Odessa's words would act as a magnifying glass for these people and allow them see even a glimpse of what must be done.
    "We cannot allow these crimes to go unpunished any longer! Justice must be served! We can no longer sit around and do nothing while our enemies conjure up more and more plots against!" She stopped there in order to calm herself and see their reactions.

    [size=1]#hcacticityodessa[/size]


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    [fancypost borderwidth=0px; height: auto; width: 455px; text-align: justify;]Iowa didn't really think going against the leaders back was a good idea. Mostly since he might get mad upon finding out later on, but that didn't mean that she would tell Ichigo. Of course she wouldn't. Instead, she only gave a simple nod, no audio to be heard from her maw.

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    The dragon listened to what Odessa said and he agreed. He agreed very much and he sat down before he nodded his head. "I agree that we can not just sit around and wait for something bad to happen to us over and over again. Shadowclan needs to pay for what they did to Ichigo. I hate it that we never attack others back for killing our members and wounding countless others." He was on Odessa's side and frankly he also knew things that other's didn't know about the one who had attacked Ichigo. He could see inside the Monarch's head from time to time when he was weak.
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    Prism wasn't sure how he felt about this.


    a portion of him applauded odessa's bravery in this and another viewed this a form of mutiny. but should a whole clan pay for the blood drawn by one higher up? then again, how could an attack on one higher up be considered an attack on the clan otherwise if the other were not true? he did also think of telling ichigo, but not in any effort to stop this plan. in ichigo's current state, he didn't imagine that the cougar could really do much to stop them even if he really wanted to. he knew how ichigo would feel. like this further bloodshed would be his fault for not being strong enough. hm. would the taste of revenge be worth the after effect on his friend?


    however, this was also about hawkclan and whether shadowclan meant it or not, it had happened and hawkclan could not sit idly by like a weakling while the monarch healed. even if it were not personal, it would be too strong a display of submission to go unnoticed by others. hawkclan's peace would have to be sacrificed no matter how preferable it was. either they would let it go avenging their monarch or lie belly up for someone else to come stab them in their moment of weakness. the world can be so cruel.


    the jaguar was silent for several long minutes, still mulling over the pros and cons before he finally moved forward. if this decision cost him his position, so be it. the real weight on his shoulders was the blood he was allowing to run. if he stood with his fellow hp, it would not be only his head on the line, but others too. "i stand with you odessa," he stated firmly and went to go station himself beneath the pile of rocks that his fellow outrider was perched on. "if we are to strike, now is the best time when they's weakened." divide and conquer they say. they may be expecting an attack in rebuttal, but the loss of their leader had likely brought a degree of chaos.
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    //retro to capture


    Barium followed after Clou, eyes wide in fear and shock. She stayed silent though, since Clou had said what she was going to say. She looked up at Odessa, defiance flashing through her eyes.


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    [size=1]jay wasn't sure how to feel about this. first, he agreed that shadowclan needed to be raided. hawkclan needed to fight back and not show any signs of submission, otherwise they might be viewed as weak and possible targets for enemies to take over. and everyone knew how that went last time. plus, if they showed their strength they could prevent future attacks. but then .. harrier and bistre were there. he had been taught since the day he joined that the clan came before anything else, but .. this was their old leader and deputy they were talking about. he didn't want to hurt them .. then again, it was their choice to stay in shadowclan, plus they also had the choice not to attack each other on the battlefield. so he was neutral on that. and, of course, this would be going against his leader's words. it was never directly said ichigo had never approved of this raid, but it was definitely implied. the leader was jay's friend, and he was entrusted a high position in the clan - he was supposed to be loyal and set a good example. he was honestly so torn. "eh .." he mumbled, looking up at odessa curiously. he would need to come up with a final answer, and fast.
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    #hcactivityjayw

    Kupfer had been sitting off to one side, calmly trying to identify every person there. But... the Outrider couldn't stay silent about something as big as this, however. Almost everyone she counted among her family was in ShadowClan... surely this would only cause more problems between Harrier and the others, and HawkClan? Most of HawkClan weren't family members, true, but everyone had looked up to and respected Harrier and Bistre. Attacking their chosen Clan would only make matters worse.
    Sure, they might stay out of it. But... loyalty to the Clan was necessary, so they might have to join in just to prove themselves. And Bistre was a high position there, his presence at a battle would surely be requested. It was hard, knowing your family was in an enemy Clan. But hopefully the leaders could work things out....
    The bind Outrider rose to her paws, waiting for Clou to finish before speaking. She struggled to keep her voice quiet, but emotion as fierce as this could not be so easily suppressed. Tried to speak logically, make Odessa see reason. But this could not be a calm and logical discussion. "Even if I could fight, I wouldn't. More than half my family is in ShadowClan... I'm not going to just let you lead a raid on their Clan, even if we are enemies!" Kupfer couldn't outright stop Odessa from going, but she would try her best. She swung her attention over to the rest of the gathered people, anger burning in her eyes. "We all respected Harrier and Bistre when they still lived here, didn't we? How do you think they'll feel when HawkClan goes to raid them!? They may not actively fight, true, but we are their friends, their family! Can we really just hope to raid their chosen Clan without them losing trust in us? Losing faith in us? Is that really what we all want?" She paused, trying to get a feel for their reactions. Trying to gauge if her words were making any difference at all.
    "Is ShadowClan the only one who has been leaving corpses on our territory? Do we even know it's them? Remember, some people have the power to manipulate scents... do we have any proof?" Kupfer demanded, glaring at Odessa. "How are we to blame the whole of ShadowClan for Ichigo's blindness? One person alone did this--why attack everyone if only one person needs to be brought to justice? Are we really going to imply that every ShadowClanner is responsible for these attacks? Harrier and Bistre and their kits are ShadowClanners now--by raiding ShadowClan, we are going to, directly or indirectly, blame our former Clanmates for what happened to Ichigo. Do we really want that?" Kupfer let her unseeing gaze sweep over the group, roiling anger coming off the young warrior in heavy waves. She couldn't believe this at all, even though it was happening right in front of her eyes. "Does Ichigo even know about this raid? Do you have his permission, Odessa? I think not--it's why you all gathered us here at midnight outside of camp!"