Yeah. So.

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    [size=11px]I see what's going on.
    If you know what family the kits are going to be in (eg. black, chocolate), you could just focus on the dilution separately. So, for example;


    Black x Chocolate.
    (Bb"Dd"oY) x (bb"Dd"oo)
    Now, I know that the kits could be black and chocolate.
    Let's put those in a box for safekeeping.


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    Lets take out the dilution genes.


    Dd x Dd.


    What can we tell from here? If both the parents pass down a dilute gene (d) then the kits could be dilute. If one or both pass down a dense gene (D) we would get dense kits.
    So; we get dense AND dilutes in this litter. Cool.


    Let's take out one of the families and work with that.


    Black.
    Since we could have both the dense AND the dilute of black, we have black and blue as possible colours. If we had dilution modifiers, tabby genes, etc., we would have more options, but this is the basic concept of understanding possibilities.


    Chocolate.
    Same here; dense and dilutes are possible.


    What have we got down now?
    Black, blue, chocolate, and lilac.


    So...


    Black x Chocolate
    (Bb"Dd"oY) x (bb"Dd"oo)
    Black, blue, chocolate, lilac.


    Questions?

    [font=georgia][size=11px]...None regarding that, because I thought I figured that part out. hahaha no you didn't emma you're an idiot
    BLACK AND CHOCOLATE IS SO SIMPLE THOUGH




    ...I like the box.
    *grabby hands*

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    [size=11px]Try Cream x Lilac. :-*
    I'll put them in a box for you.


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    [font=georgia][size=11px]Cream x Lilac
    {Bb"dd"OY} x {bb"dd"oo}
    Males: Cream tabby, lilac, blue??


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    [font=georgia][size=11px]Females: Dilute tortie, lilac tortie, ...??


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    [font=georgia][size=11px]*sigh*
    I keep trying to sort out the kits by mashing the genotypes together first, because I'm better at that than predicting kits. *groans*
    ^I'm forgetting something, aren't I?

    [size=11px]Males HAVE to be the colour of their mother. They get only ONE chromosome from each parent, and since the dad only gives a Y the mom must be the one to give the colour-linked X.


    Females are correct-a-mundo. :-*

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    [size=11px]There are more, but to do genetics here on this site we use those. :P

    Different species have different numbers of chromosomes.
    There are two alleles for each trait. Each parent passes down one to the offspring. Genotypes are pretty much alleles -- they are the 'codes' for alleles.


    I think. Listen to Vinny.

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    [fancypost bgcolor=#000000; border-top: double white; border-bottom: double white; border-right: double white; border-left: double white; height: 90px; width: 360px; overflow: auto; background: color(''); opacity: 0.6;]And when there are more, can they still only pass down one?


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    [size=11px]Alleles are part of chromosomes, I believe. :)
    I think so. I'm self-teaching and so I'm not sure.

    [font=georgia][size=11px]WHY THOUGH
    WHY DOES ONLY THE RED FACTOR DO THAT TO THE CHROMOSOMES
    BLACK X CHOCOLATE IS DIFFERENT MALES CAN BE ANY FOUR OF THE COLORS THAT ARE POSSIBLE IN THAT PAIRING




    I WAS GOING TO LEAVE ONLY LILAC FOR THE MALES TOO
    *AUGH* STUPID GUT REACTION THAT I NEVER EVER FOLLOW




    *facewall*

    [size=11px]Not colour; I meant factor. The males in the case of Red Factor x Black Factor will be black factor. Sorry for the confusion.


    Males are always the factor their mother passes down because they receive a colour-linked X from their mother and a Y chromosome from their father.


    ѕαιɾε wrote:

    There can be more than one allele for each trait? No, unless there's a mutation.


    [size=11px]I'm not sure I understand what you mean. There are always two on WCRPG.
    The dilution trait in a heterogeneous dense cat, par example, consists of two alleles; dense (D) and dilute (d).



    Saire: Red Tabby x Tortoiseshell. List all possible results.
    (ie. list results for the kits if the tortoiseshell passes black and list results for red passing.


    Ner: Toritoseshell x Tortoiseshell. You get a special sticker if you guess the genotypes correctly and another sticker if you list the kits correctly. If anyone else wants to give a try, shoot.
    List all possible results.

    [font=georgia][size=11px]Okay, so in any pairing that has the red factor in it, the males are ONLY going to be the color that their mother passes? Nothing to do with the father?
    excluding dilutes i get that part

    We touched on genetics this year in Bio.


    There are always two alleles for each trait -- eye color, fur color, markings, dilution, height, etc. That was what I was taught.


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    [size=11px]It doesn't even have to have the red factor in it.
    Their factor colours are the only things that only matter on one parent; the dilutions, agouti gene, white spotting, albinoism, and so on all rely on BOTH the parents.
    The males are always the same factor as their mother, yes.


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    [size=11px]Correct genotypes, but check the chart for the colours.
    And remember dilutes.